恐慌和流行病不会永远持续下去。封锁不会永远持续下去。所以，我们还会开车，我们还会搭乘飞机。所以，如果你进场，我可能也会进场。我现在没有进场是因为我在做别的事情。如果我不是太懒，我也许应该进场或思考何时及如何进场买入，来投资这个行业。因为目前存在恐慌，而如果你在恐慌的时候买入，你总能赚钱。
Rogers: The measures and actions of theUS are extremely poor and irrational. Probably Mr. Trump would think trade warsare good for the US, but trade wars have never been good for anyone and anycountry. Mr. Trump may not know this, and if he does, he is being arrogant.
Weekly on Stocks: In youropinion, what are the factors or measures that will prompt it to end as earlyas possible?
Inthe crisis of 2008, China saved a lot of money for the rainy day. When it startedto rain,China saved itself and helped the whole world by those money.However,China is also in debt now. All the countries are drowning in debt, so thecrisis will be very hard to solve.
不过我教我的女儿们，一定要多维度地了解事情。如果想看英文资讯，可以看中国的中国国际电视台，英国的BBC，韩国的KBS，还有俄罗斯的RT。在网络上，这些咨询应有尽有，我告诉我的孩子们，如果想详尽的了解事情，这些都要看。她们认为我说的对。如果你只看CNN，并认为它向你传达它的讯息是绝对正确的，但这是不可能的。
《红周刊》：周一(4月20日)，NYMEX原油期货2005(5月合约)报收于每桶-37.63美元，自1983年开始交易以来首次出现负值。您认为是什么原因导致“负价格”这种极端情况的出现？
Weekly on Stocks: First ofall, I would like to discuss with you about the global pandemic and the major correctionof global market. Has the outbreak of COVID-19 also affected your life?
《红周刊》：在您看来，现在是买入原油期货的好时机吗？如果您要买入的话，您会选择在什么时点呢？
罗杰斯：很不幸，历史上确实有过这样的时刻。有时国家们会变得更开放、更国际化，有时它们变得更封闭。我想在长达几十年的开放化之后，世界现在有了封闭的趋势。这不是一件好事。在1930年代大危机时期就出现过这种状态，它导致了战争，以及其他许多问题。现在也有这种趋势。我希望它不会长久。许多美国公司都在搬回美国，但在美国开办企业的成本是非常昂贵的，产品质量却未必同样好。目前事态或许就是如此，这很不好，无论是对我的孩子，还是对这个世界。
Weekly on Stocks: The crudeoil price has dipped to $18/bbl. this year. What do you think of thedevelopment trend of crude oil price in the future?
罗杰斯：谢谢，我期待能到中国和你们见面。
《红周刊》：在您看来，订阅优秀的读物，定期阅读对投资很重要。您的很多交易决定也都是从刊物中得到了“灵感”。可以分享一下，您目前最常阅读的刊物是什么吗？
罗杰斯：石油价格战对大量使用石油的国家当然是有好处的，比如德国和日本。对韩国等世界上的许多国家也都有好处，但对沙特阿拉伯和俄罗斯而言却并非好事。
罗杰斯：我非常高兴来参加此次采访。我很久没有见过你们了，所以真的很高兴。我还清晰地记得早在2004年参加你们首届“国际投资大师讲坛”，那会儿我比现在年轻多了。那是一段很愉快的经历，也让我更加深入的了解了中国。
《红周刊》：就像巴菲特所说的赶在恐惧的时候去“贪婪”。
所以，这个故事的教训是，你应该马上去成立一家储油罐公司。你可以把储油罐租出去，大赚一笔（笑）。
Weekly on Stocks: Hi Mr. Rogers! It is a great honor to have youwith us for an exclusive in-depth interview on “Face to Face”.
The market conditions are alreadyterrible now, and a trade war would make it even worse. As I mentioned before,if politicians started making mistakes consecutively, the economic situationswould be getting even worse! And it’s highly possible that their mistakes wouldcontinue. If Mr. Trump does start atrade war, later in the year or next year, the market conditions would be evenworse than my expectation. Just like what I said, this crisis would be theworst bear market of my life. Trade wars are absolutely no good for anyone.
罗杰斯：在这场危机结束以前，我相信它会比2008年那次更糟糕，只是现在还没有表现出来而已。毕竟现在刚刚过去六个星期，股市目前的调整只是减缓了一些。
Rogers:Thrift is usually benefit success than anything. One of the first things Ibought for my daughters were piggy banks. I told them that money is to be putinto the piggy bank. I want to teach them that money is to be saved andinvested money is not used to be spent. After you save your money, if you wantto spend the money later, you can. So far, when my daughter get money, theyoften put it in their piggy banks. After the piggy bank is full, we go to thebig bank to put the money in the big bank. I try to teach my children to saveand to be thrifty. You can ask them after 20 or 30 years if I did it right. Iknow many people spend more money than they have, and many lives and marriagesget messed up because they have money problems. Money is to be saved, not to bespent until you have enough, if you ask me. That’s my way, you do it your way.
所以我们要多从一些渠道了解更全面的信息，去看5个、或者6个媒体的报道，然后再自己思考哪些信息是正确而真实的。这不容易，不过多年来我一直这样做，现在也在教我的小孩这样做。媒体发声时，他们都认为自己是正确的，但没有人一直正确，所以我们要有自己的判断。
Rogers:I doubt it will be as severe as the Great Depression, but it could be. First,the world is drowning in debt. Second, we had the Great Depression becausepoliticians made mistakes, and they may make mistakes again. As I can see,they’re beginning to make mistakes. Governments of the US and Singapore aremaking mistakes; other countries may follow them. As for China, it’s marketshould be more open. If politicians don’t make wise decisions, then we’ll havea crisis worse than the Great Depression.
罗杰斯：特朗普这样做是为了选票。众所周知，他正在失去产油区的选票。但其实所有国家都应该这样做。石油崩盘了，油价下跌了，如果中国、德国或任何其他国家，如果它们没有足够的储备来应对紧急状况，都应该马上进场去买石油并存放在自己的储油罐里。
罗杰斯：的确，新冠肺炎已经成为全球大流行病。我的生活也受到了影响，我现在只能待在新加坡的家里，不能去中国，也不能去其他任何地方。现在有一些中国股票是让我很感兴趣的，或许将来我会去买它们，但现在我没有办法亲自去了解它们。
我痛恨贸易战。我是美国人，所以很不想看到现在的局面。发动贸易战完全是不理智的行为。它会伤害到这两个国家。我希望美国政府能更理智一点。到目前为止，中国的表现都更加克制、谨慎。
这次危机会比2008年全球金融危机更糟糕。如果全世界的政客都不明智，那么这次危机比30年代那次还要严重是有可能的。
Weekly on Stocks: When do youexpect the real end of this correction?
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